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Post by kppy3 on Oct 10, 2004 6:06:09 GMT -5
hi rosierobinross, homeopathy can be daunting!! a vast amount of information. i can and have, spent literally hundreds of hours reading, researching ect... and have barely broken the surface of all this!! i just took and passed an elementary homeopathy course. my homeopath suggested a couple of reference books to help me understand and to study. murphy's medical repertory and the remedy guide by murphy as well. i also have several other resource books. one for dogs!! i have resolved several illnesses of my own and also a few of my kid's minor illnesses -all using these books. very "dry" reading tho!! nux is your constitutional then? good to know you can find relief consisitenty. i spent all day trying to get rid of back pain recently. finally found the right remedy tho and the pain was gone in a couple hours! i have three remedy kits in different potencies and maybe 20 more lesser used remedies. i take them with me when we travel. have you used homeopathy with your children? for adhd? how has that gone? thanks for responding! kppy
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Post by ohmama on Oct 10, 2004 9:59:24 GMT -5
Kppy, It's been several years since my experience with the homeopath. I looked through my records to find the names of the various remedys and couldn't find the information. The only one I recognize by name was stramonium because I remember when strattera came out I thought it sounded similar. There were several that I didn't know the name of because the homeopath used numbers instead of names on them. When I asked what they were called she said it's better I didn't know because the source or name may affect my opinion on if it's working or not. I thought that was very odd but I was desperate to find an answer and put my trust in her ability to know what she was doing. I was not interested in learning all the details, it was all very mysterious to me back then.
I remember another one with a similar name to morphine but as I said, I was not told a lot. I went to her for just over a year and spent some big bucks, over $100 an hour by phone, not to mention hotel expenses with a few trips necessary by airplane. There were no results. I also purchased a medical kit similar to the one Ross is talking about. This has come in handy for minor illnesses and is the first thing I turn to during a cold or flu.
When I received an accurate diagnosis from brain scans and an intensive 3 day evaluation I understood why nothing else worked. Not the homeopathy, not the 15 minute check list used by my ped, and all the one size fits all diagnosis many doctors gave me with medication that only made my boy worse. All of that was guess work. The real diagnosis made my hair stand on end. It was so much more than adhd. His problems were extreme and required this diagnosis before any help could be given. You have to first know what that problem is before you can treat it effectively. And even then, there is not a magic answer but there is a better, more clear direction to travel.
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Post by kppy3 on Oct 10, 2004 10:29:52 GMT -5
ohmama, good lord!! you've been thru it haven't you? the brain scan, what did it reveal, if i may ask? i won't comment on your homeopathic experience except to say the obvious, it was not good and i am sorry. it sound's like your child is doing better or that at least you know how to work with it? have a plan. kppy
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Post by ohmama on Oct 11, 2004 14:37:15 GMT -5
The diagnosis from the 3 day testing that included the SPECT brain images determined a bipolar type disorder called Ring of Fire adhd with anxiety disorder, and mood disorder. It showed the overfocus features he has and temporal lobe dysfunctiuon that now made it possible for me to understand the reason for his temper outbursts along with all the many behavior and learning problems that commonly overlap with these serious brain disorders, so there was no more guessing as to what was wrong. I have the full and true picture of his brain and how it works. See www.brainplace.com/bp/atlas/default.asp for information on what these brain scans can show along with the before and after treatment results when you have the correct dx and are using appropriate meds. With this knowledge I can form a treatment program to target what will help nutritionally. Close attention has to be paid to his diet, vitamins/minerals, amino acids and omega 3 fatty acids. We are also using a mood stabilizing medication that targets the temporal lobes. These natural alternatives and medication work together to address the problem and I am glad to say he is stable now. Some days are real good and some are bad but overall it is working. I feel certain that from having this form of diagnosis I have saved precious time in giving him the treatment program that may have taken years to figure out had I stuck with the standard symptom diagnosis that is common to traditional medicine as well as the unlimited claims from the natural alternatives advocates. When you have a child with serious brain disorders there is no time to waste. I don't know if you are familiar with Dr. Amen or his books? If your child has a brain disorder you may want to look into it. He has written "Change Your Brain Change Your Life" as well as "Healing ADD". You can get more details on the website www.brainplace.com if you want. I wish you good health whatever you do in your treatment plan. I hope you will be as secure with it as I am with the knowledge I have made use of in my choices. I realize everyone looks at things in a different way.
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 11, 2004 17:27:58 GMT -5
Thanks for all of this information, I am definately going to get a few books now. (to add to my mini-library : Jeez, I need another bookshelf Thank you all for your information given it is very valuable to the site and really appreciated.
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Post by kppy3 on Oct 11, 2004 19:47:37 GMT -5
ohmama,
wow, this sounds serious and very complicated- expensive too? did he (does he) have alot of other symptoms- other than the standard adhd stuff? his brain disorder, was he born with it or was it acquired?
i wondered because, years ago i taught in a rehab center for traumatically brain injured people. mostly car accidents. i eval'd, developed and implemented treatment (educational) programs for the children there. some of these kids were just released from the hospital, still stapled and stitched, tracheotomies in place. soo sad. so now years later, i have a son who exhibits many behaviors i noted in the children i once worked with! low frustration tolerance, difficulties with sensory overload, high scores in one aspect of a subject and low in others. impulsive, innattentive & lots more.
i often wondered if my son had taken a fall when younger and i missed the signs! i don't know- another story i guess...
did the tests reveal why your son has a brain disorder? is it a disease that he has? sorry if i'm being too nosy- just trying to follow here.
thank you for all the info. i'll check it out. i've heard of, but not really investigated dr. amen.
yes, i'm about as confident as any of us can be about the success of our choosen treament. my son no longer suffers from most of the adhd symptoms, however he still suffers from the blow to his self confidence and from being academically behind and therefore retained in second grade. all of which we are currently working on. sad that he (and our whole family!) had to go thru this, but grateful that we've found a way out. homeopathy.
i'm glad you have a plan. it sounds like it's working for you. i wish you continued success with it. thanks again for the info.
kppy
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Post by ohmama on Oct 11, 2004 20:32:04 GMT -5
I don't mind the questions at all, you're not being nosy. I really have no secrets here, I know it is safe. This is my support group. There are parents here who have been through worse than me and we give great comfort to each other by being open.
The disorders my boy suffers from were mostly inherited from his biological mother who was a drug abuser. She was also bipolar herself and had many other problems as a result of not getting proper treatment. This woman (a family member) had two sets of twins. I adopted one set and my sister took the older twins. They are all severely afflicted and display similar symptoms. My boys are 10 and her twins are 12. They are all doing well considering what they have been through.
My boys were kept in a dark closet for most of their early months of life. I can only imagine how that contributed to the problems they now have! I finally was able to take custody of them when they were 6 mons old. Had the neglect gone on much longer they would have died or become Farrell children if they survived all the abuse.
The more I learn about adhd and the overlaping brain disorders that are included with this diagnosis, the more I realize that there are many who have yet to find out how any kind of damage (genetic or otherwise) to one part of the brain affects the whole brain. It isn't just the prefrontal cortex that is so typical in adhd that is affected. The whole brain is so closely linked together that it is no wonder there are many different symptoms. This is why a complete evaluation is so important. Some disorders surface later than others. I never like it when things sneak up on me, I like to see it coming if you know what I mean?
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Post by kppy3 on Oct 12, 2004 6:11:56 GMT -5
it never ceases to amazes me the the depths to which humans can sink to to maintain their substance abusing habits. i too have known a few in this desparate situation...
what a sad beginning for these children! thank god you and your sister were able to intervene on behalf of these boys!
so they inherited bi-polar amoung other things? what about the substance abuse aspect? fetal alcohol syndrome, cocaine, crack? has the adhd been related to these congential problems? the therapy addresses these?
the sensory deprivation, have you pursued therapy for this? or is it not an issue? not sure what is available, but o.t. would have to figure in there somewhere.
see, i am nosy! sorry if it's too much.
the brain is an amazing organ- it's capacity for healing tremendous.
i'm not sure i agree that these overlapping " Diseases" should be grouped together under the heading of adhd tho. seems like the more people i talk to the more expanded the term adhd becomes. there are so many ways to be "adhd" almost too many in terms of teacher training to work with these kids.
do you see what i mean?
seems like the adhd category could be better defined?
well, that's another issue i guess!
but i'm glad you have searched all this out for your kids. just goes to show how mom's will go to any lengths for their kids. you certainly have. kppy
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 12, 2004 8:28:00 GMT -5
When it comes to being a mama, I bow to Ohmama for her patience with her kids.
No rock is unturned when she is around.Thanks Ohmama,on behalf of all of the valuable knowlege that you have uncovered
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Post by ohmama on Oct 12, 2004 23:04:30 GMT -5
Kppy, Yes, you're right it does get complicated when you are dealing with the brain. I can't help but think in years to come the term adhd will have to be more specific and not this one size fits all category we have now. There also needs to be a better way to diagnose than a checklist of questions for parents and teachers! I'm convinced Dr. Amen is ahead of his time with the brain scans. I hope it doesn't take the rest of the medical profession too long to get it together.
The genetic history is sooo important. All 4 kids were fetal drug/alcohol. Bio-mom was obviously out of control and in need of some intensive treatment for herself. I really can't judge her actions or even hold her accountable. I've had to let go of all the feelings of anger toward her because I know she was/is very sick and will fight those demons all her life. No one wants to be a drug addict or have mental problems. It's not a deliberate choice, at least not with her. She didn't get anything out of it. Her life will never be good. She will never have any peace.
It's amazing how the heart and the brain can work together to help heal each other. When a child is loved and given the patience and consideration for what they need, these disorders can have the result of them having the best chance for a wholesome life. This of course requires they have all the proper medical treatment in place.
At this point the plan is to stablilze the temporal lobes and then treat the anxiety and adhd. I think we have the lobes stable now. It's one day at a time as they say.
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Post by ohmama on Oct 13, 2004 10:45:39 GMT -5
Kaiti, I think every parent on this board is a landscaper, turning over stones and rocks on a daily basis. I constantly pray that all of us seek out the right landscaping contractor (medical person) who is qualified and can bring in the heavy equipment (meds) when needed cause we have some very large boulders to remove. At least I do.
I feel very protective of the children and the parents who have to make the decisions on what treatment they will give and so my research is never ending.
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Post by HooDunnit on Oct 13, 2004 11:04:12 GMT -5
Maybe that's why my ADHD son has rocks in his head! lol
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 13, 2004 11:06:35 GMT -5
That's an interseting analogy, I never thought of it like that. I think that's what makes me appreciate the fact that I work with kids.
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Post by ohmama on Oct 13, 2004 11:41:49 GMT -5
Oh Berry, I love your sense of humor!! You are both master gardeners
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 13, 2004 11:47:30 GMT -5
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree there does it Barry
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