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Post by aimee30 on Sept 10, 2004 15:03:44 GMT -5
Do you think writing lines helps in the discipline of our kids? DD came home from school today with four sheets of "lines". "Keep your hands and feet to yourself. Leave student work on the walls alone. Respect other classes by being quiet. Walk don't run. In the hallway I will walk quietly and keep my hands and feet to myself." And my personal favorite, "It is important to be quiet in the hallway because it is nice. Very nice." I never had to write lines in school and just wondered if it actually helps? Of course there was this one time that my "boyfriend" talked me into writing his lines for him.  How do you feel about kids writing lines? |
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Post by catseye on Sept 10, 2004 16:03:32 GMT -5
Just a shot in the dark here! But if the writing lines is the same sentence, over and over again, they used that as punishment for me when I was in school... I remember drawing a big line all the way down the paper, then crossing the lines to make "I" out of them (or "t" or leave alone for "L"...
I can tell you it didnt help me!! BUT I was a very rebelious kid.... For our kids, I cant imagine it would do a dang thing for them...
When did she have time to do the lines? That would be my concern, did they make her skip recess to do them?
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Post by aimee30 on Sept 10, 2004 16:21:02 GMT -5
Yep, same thing. I'm not sure when they had her doing this, but she says she hasn't missed recess. I do know all but one page was done as a class. Of course 2nd graders here still use the first grade paper so it wasn't like she had to write them over and over. Just enough to fill the page.
Guess I'll have to send in a note to voice my concerns.
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 10, 2004 20:49:19 GMT -5
pssssttttt Aimee, I was told last \year when my girls at the after school program made a kid write, :"I WILL KEEP MY COMMENTS TO MYSELF AND RESPECT THE TEACHERS" 20 times THAT IS CONSIDERED CORPRAL PUNISHMENT. I'm in New Jersey, so the laws may b edifferent, but the Principal's husband is an adminastator at a HS, and they keep close with what is law and all that stuff. It is considered corpral punishment because the child isn't thinking about what they did and why they did it. It is possible for hte child to write an age appropriate passage about what/why, but it has to be in their own words, so that they "understand" it. An dit's not "deemening" to the self esteem of the child. No tmy words, don't know if I agree or not, but that's what I can and can't do at work. Drives the kids nuts too, they have to think of what they will write, hmmmmm maybe I do like that  |
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Post by ohmama on Sept 10, 2004 22:29:45 GMT -5
It doesn't seem that this teacher knows anything about positive reinforcement? Discipline is more than punishment.
I have found it necessary to have a talk with the teacher and explain the best way to handle my son was to catch him being good and compliment him. Not to wait till he does something wrong and then punish him. For example... he would get out of his seat a lot during class (anxiety, and typical adhd). I told her to wait till he stayed in his seat for a short while and go over to him quietly and tell him how good it was that he was staying in his seat. Focus on this, compliment him before he gets out of his seat again. Do this several times a day. You will gain the childs cooperation and they may even get to like you.
You may want to leave that last remark off. I had to say it to her, it was irresistible. She did what I asked and found that it did help. My boy never did end up liking her though.
The work you describe is useless for the child and does nothing to encourage or motivate them to want to be good. The secret is to reach the childs heart.
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 10, 2004 22:57:12 GMT -5
Um what was I saying , oh yeah, YEAH OHMOMA
I agree with that ;D
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Post by dansmommy on Sept 12, 2004 4:46:25 GMT -5
The secret is to reach the childs heart. I think the teacher should write that phrase 20 times, Ohmama.
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Post by Linda on Sept 12, 2004 9:24:43 GMT -5
I have had the 2nd graders as best as they could write a note to their parents telling them what kind of trouble they had been in.I would then sign my name and leave another line blank where the parents had to sign it.I did't have to do it to often and usually it was for fighting on the playground.!!!
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 12, 2004 15:18:49 GMT -5
Don't tell me second graders figh ton the playground, it's only the beginning of the school year for heaven's sake  |
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Post by Linda on Sept 12, 2004 16:09:58 GMT -5
YEAH THEY DO kAITI.......I THINK THEY WILL ALL BE SETTLING DOWN SOON! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 13, 2004 8:38:31 GMT -5
I hope so, the 3rd and 4th graders a getting to me already But they just need to have some time to settle, an dtoday WILL be the day. Jeez, so far we have had upwards of 35 kids, today we have 45  GOD GRANT ME THE PATIENCE TO NOT LOSE MY COOL TODAY  19 in K-2nd grade 26 in 3rd-7th grades.......yeah, just what I needed more of Tara's attitude around |
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Post by Linda on Sept 13, 2004 9:21:52 GMT -5
Nee some help Kaiti? ;D
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 13, 2004 9:24:48 GMT -5
Oh I don't know, I just thought about it, and we have the teacher known for her screaming working today :oThis will be fun. ::)NOT
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Post by camismom on Sept 13, 2004 18:36:17 GMT -5
Ok, I have to go against the crowd here and say that that would certainly make my dd think before she acted in the future.
Writing is pure torture to her so having to write these line would be like the absolute worst punishment, and it would certainly be something she would try avoiding in the future! But then again, they can't always control their impulses, and I speak for my dd only.
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Post by mskris on Sept 16, 2004 11:37:04 GMT -5
What you described is what my mother called "punishment homework." She absolutely forbade us to do anything like that. If we had to write a paper, do research, or explain something, fine, we'd be learning, but just to copy a statement over and over - no way! She'd be up at the school faster than you could imagine, arguing with the principal and teacher about it. That's the way she was. We learned early on not to get into trouble because we didn't want MOM going to school and embarrassing us with her support! LOL I feel the same way. What does writing a line over and over do for the kids? It just makes them resentful and think of all the things they could do for revenge while they write!! I'd protest. Kris PS - This is also how Mom felt about "in-school suspension." What's the usefulness? Better to have the kid in class so they'd learn something. BTW, none of the 4 of us ever had ISS. |
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