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Post by rosyred45 on Apr 20, 2004 17:32:41 GMT -5
Well, the teachers had their meeting concerning all of the students that have concerns...... Apparently there is some confusion as to whether Mikey would qualify for a 504 because of adhd I thought it was explained to me last year that this was precisely what would suit Mikey. He has no other LD's so he wouldn't qualify for an IEP..... Now I know what the heck y'all are complaining for. When push comes to shove, they can talk the talk but not walk the walk. Since I am in NJ, is there anything new that would deem adhd as inadmisable for a 504? Kaiti Any thing good bad or other wise is appreciated..thanks
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Post by TexasMom on Apr 20, 2004 20:02:12 GMT -5
According to federal law, he should be eligible for an iep.
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Post by Annette on Apr 20, 2004 21:55:27 GMT -5
As far as I know in order to qualify for a 504 his ADHD must be interfering with his ability to learn.
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Post by adhdtimes4 on Apr 20, 2004 22:56:15 GMT -5
Kaiti,
A 504 is given to anyone who has “a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities…caring for oneself, performing manual tasks, walking, seeing, hearing, speaking, breathing, learning, and working.” So if ADHD fits the bill, Mikey should be eligible for a 504. Keep in mind that some schools are really strict about the nice little subjective word 'substantially'. One word of wisdom gained from hindsight - get it while he's little!
Kayla
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Post by rosyred45 on Apr 21, 2004 4:41:55 GMT -5
Well, my mom being a teacher and on the committee for the students, let me in on the info. I will be talking to his teacher when I get into school today and with the principal who thinks that the 504's have changed. I need ammo when I talk to the principal. The teacher said that she would like to impliment a plan because it is tough for him to focus. Mom said that with everything that was described about the modifications that have been made for Mikey so far, it is a typical case for a 504, he's being given independant work for reading because he is that much more advanced in that area and he can't handle the group situations. Mm also said that because of Mikey, and how much other students need it, there will be a "paper trail" system implimented for certain students. WHOOOOOHOOOOOOO, but that would supposedly be instead of a 504. I will be getting everything together in the next few days, AND I will play hard ball. I will cry, hollar, stomp, I don't care. I thought from talking to the principal last year, we were on the same page, but apparently I was wrong......guess what. She will be on my page (and when I find out what page I'm on I'll let y'all now ;D) Thanks for your help. Keep it coming I need all the ammo I can get Kaiti
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Post by mskris on Apr 21, 2004 18:50:48 GMT -5
Just FYI: TexasMom, adhd is not an immediate qualification for IEP. IEP involves testing and qualification via those test results. It is under Special Education and requires testing. Whereas a 504 plan does not - usually adhd will qualify a child for a 504 if it interferes with their ability to learn. 504's involve accomodations, but not necessarily any special education services. That's the way I understood it, anyway.
KRis
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Post by TexasMom on Apr 21, 2004 21:55:58 GMT -5
Kris,
I got my handbook out here, and under the Individuals with Disabilities act (IDEA) Children must meet the federal defininition of a disability. ADHD falls under the category of Other Health Impaired. It actually lists ADHD as one of the impairments, along with asthma, diabetes, epilepsy, etc. It says that it adversely affects a student's educational performance. It doesn't say the child needs to be failing. My son Steven is gifted and was getting B's and C's mostly before he got his iep. He's getting straight A's now. In Texas, the child just needs to be not living up to his potential, not necessarily failing. I would check with you state board of education before I'd give up on the iep, just to be on the safe side.
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Post by rosyred45 on Apr 22, 2004 11:24:42 GMT -5
From what I have found so far, the IEP needs to have another LD, whereas the 504 .....let me find the wording of it realy quick..... "Are IEP's required under Section 504?" mind you I am in NJ-"No, an IEP is not required; however, best prcatice dictated that the district produce a written document entitled ' Section 504/ADA Individual Accomidation Plan' to memorialize the agreed services and accomidations." This information came from Trenton HS's website...so I know that everything may not be the same as here, buit for a general basis, AND to tell the school I know what others do, I hope to use it to my advantage. Back to printing.....it's working up a sweat over here Kaiti And thanks for your replys so far
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Post by shardstar on Apr 22, 2004 18:47:55 GMT -5
Hi Kaiti,
As you know I'm in Jersey too., My daughter was tested last summer, and it was found that she is ADHD only. No LD's at all, and her IQ is 135. It was decided to give her an IEP using the "Other Impaired" criteria and now she has basic accommodations in the classroom. They never said anything about a 504 plan at all. If you would like any info on NJ rights, I have about 10 books that I have collected every time I go in for a meeting, or they send me info on her IEP. Let me know!
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