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Post by eaccae on Oct 31, 2003 10:23:22 GMT -5
I just have to vent here. DS (almost 8) came home yesterday singing a song - basically about going up on a roof with an M16 and shooting Barney's bloody head off, it then progressed to more gory details with a grenade and a bazooka and other stuff. My husband and I almost fainted right there. He told us he learned it from his little girl friend A. She is the sweetest thing - so I asked him where she learned it. He said some of the other boys at school. That the boys at school and some of the girls were singing it. We told him he was not allowed to sing it again - it was inappropriate and unacceptable. He wanted to know why - we told him it was gory, talked about killing and involved weapons of war. He said a grenade is a ball not a weapon. We explained a grenade is a bomb and we didn't want him repeating any of that. If someone was to sing it to him today - not say anything except that he was not allowed to sing it - that I was going to call his teacher.
Mistake number one - I SHOULD have called the principal. I am having problems with the teacher - I keep trying to give her the benefit of the doubt - but after today . . . So I called the teacher and explained that DS came home singing this song. She said she didn't know where he could have learned it because he only hangs out with A who is the sweetest girl. I told her I knew A well - they go back a long way and were best friends in 1st grade. I told her what he told me - about A teaching the song to him and that other kids were singing it and that they taught this to A. Her response - "I think he's pulling your leg." Excuse me?!!! I told her that he didn't learn the song at home. She said she would talk to DS and A and investigate. What the hell is wrong with this teacher?!!!!!
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Post by catseye on Oct 31, 2003 11:21:59 GMT -5
She was out of line to accuse your son of lying  ... I thought with the fairly new no tolerance rule they would jump all over this sort of thing in the schools... Apparently not... GRRRR cat |
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Post by mommy007 on Oct 31, 2003 11:43:43 GMT -5
I would call the principal anyway - let him/her know what happened. I would also suggest calling he school councelor.
I just spoke to the school councelor last month because I feared my son may be picked on. Well last week there was an incidence - the children picking on my son were repremanded - giving the school personal the infomation may help protect your son in the future.
Just my thoughts
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Post by AnneM on Oct 31, 2003 15:14:43 GMT -5
I agree with Mommy007 .... I would definitely let the principal know what happened AND the reaction from the teacher.... Did you hear anything back yet on the "investigation" that the teacher said she would do?
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Post by eaccae on Oct 31, 2003 15:47:50 GMT -5
Well - I didn't get a hold of the principal today - but you can bet I am going to. DS said that he told the teacher exactly what he told me and that A did too - only different boys (all in the class).
The teacher got up and made an announcement that no one was to sing that song in school - a parent called up and it is not okay. "If your mom and dad don't mind that kind of talk then you can sing it at home." - Now I have no idea if this is actually what she said - although he is pretty adamant about it - I repeated it back to him that she said if your parents didn't mind it was okay to sing at home? And he said, "No, if your mom and dad don't mind that kind of talk then you can sing it at home. But don't worry - I'm not going to sing it at all." That is certainly the impression she gave the class.
I don't really care if your mom and dad don't mind that kind of talk - how about - don't sing it at all! I totally don't get this woman. Well - at least with all the problems I am having with her - DS really likes her.
But it is going to be a looooong year. DS is currently being evaluated for an IEP - specifically for dysgraphia and executive dysfunction. In our PPT meeting we discussed DS's problem with writing etc. She actually left me a message last week that DS didn't do anything in writer's workshop for three days (wasn't disruptive - but he said nothing ever happened to him and he couldn't think of anything to write), that he did his homework assignment incorrectly (was the writer's workshop assignment), and that if it wasn't done that night he wasn't going to pass the writing course for the year. Okay, now this is a kid with dysgraphia in the process of being evaluated for an IEP, it's mid-October, and it's the THIRD grade - aren't we being a little extreme? As you can see - I think this woman is having some issues!
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Post by Lora on Oct 31, 2003 20:06:47 GMT -5
Oh, Lord, my son comes home with a lot of little songs like this and a lot of them have to do with Barney...don't worry about his body, we'll flush him down the potty and around and around he goes and around and around he goes...
I think it started in 2nd grade. The source - 4th grade boys and classmates with big brothers who are in the 4th grade or who were once in the 4th grade.
He comes home with songs saying they made it up at recess and I have to burst his bubble and tell him that song was around when I was a kid.
I know a lot of folks don't like them but I'm okay with them. To me it's just Boyhood <buuuuuurp>
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Post by eaccae on Oct 31, 2003 20:38:52 GMT -5
Well - we've heard alot of songs which we will tell him not to sing and I would never call the teacher on them but this one to the on top of spagetti tune was VERY gory and all about killing barney and others with an M16, a grenade, a bazooka and other weapons of war - with very bloody descriptions, if you will, regarding the targets. This goes a little farther than flushing Barney down the potty. Singing about going on top of a roof all covered with blood with an M16 and shooting Barney dead and watching his bloody head fall off etc. - that is way over the line. Sorry, this isn't just boyhood. This is a sick, twisted song that if a highschooler was heard singing - in this day and age of no tolerance - would probably be suspended or given detention. Hearing these things come out of my 7 year-old's mouth . . .
I checked with my cousin (teacher) and her mon (former principal) as to whether or not I was overreacting and they both felt that I was underreacting.
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Post by Linda on Nov 5, 2003 20:39:51 GMT -5
What happened...Is there an update?  |
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Post by eaccae on Nov 5, 2003 22:25:47 GMT -5
Well - I talked to some other parents and they were all just as upset by the song. I was going to call the principal but then decided that I have so many battles to fight with the teacher . . . I decided that during one of my meetings with the principal I will bring it up along with a few other things. I have a voicemail from the teacher that I want her to hear as well - the one she left on my phone telling me DS was going to fail the writing course for the year. We just had a student at the 5/6 school arrested for threatening to beat up other students - guess this person had a list or something. It's scary.
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Post by Yanlee on Nov 11, 2003 19:24:57 GMT -5
Indeed it is scary!! >:(We parents have to be rel careful in this matter.I applaud your efforts in doing that.Don't let this pass.I agree this teacher have some issues.I have a very bad experience with one teacher too and this is the reason why I pulled out my son and transfer him to another school.This teacher solicitated complaints against my son fuuly aware that he has behavioral problems due to his ADHD.Instead of helping she is adding problems. : ::)Keep on following up the school administrator regarding this matter.  |
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