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Post by shardstar on Oct 9, 2004 16:36:39 GMT -5
What do you do when you have the same stupid fight with your spouse over and over and over again???
This is the problem. DH constantly leaves everything, including very important papers, laying all over the house. Most of the time, he walks in the house with things, and lays them on the kitchen counter. (Don't worry, honey, I can just prepare meals around the clutter!) If I were to leave everything where he puts it, pretty soon there would be no counter space left and we would have to go out to dinner every night, because there would be no space whatsoever to prepare dinner.
Mind you, I have told him over and over that this is very annoying to me, and that I wish he would get out of this habit, and put his things away, or at least somewhere else. His answer is always that he puts them there, so he can find them later. If I were to leave them where he put them, he would always know where they were. The thing is, he NEVER puts them away, if I didn't do something with them, they would sit there FOREVER til the end of time!!!
What I end up doing, because I can't stand to have people into my house, with it looking like a pigstye, and who knows when someone might drop in, is to take the stuff off the counter, and put it in a bag, and stick it somewhere out of sight. That way, I can also cook dinner without getting food on his stuff, and I even have room to prepare the meal!
Then some day in the future DH goes "Have you seen my so and so?" and I go "well, it was sitting on the counter for days, and I had to clean up, so I stuck it somewhere. I guess I'll look for it." Sometimes I find it right away, but sometimes it takes forever. A lot of times it takes forever, and then we end up having a huge fight where he says that I don't care about his belongings and that's why I'm not more careful with what I do with them. Then I go over his leaving things on the counter when he knows how I feel about that. on and on and on. Nothing ever gets resolved either!
Don't get me wrong, I love my DH to death, but this is becoming a really disfunctional messed up situation! I'm almost to the point where all I can do is laugh about it. I hate fighting about something that we both see the solution for, but can't fix.
Any advice would be appreciated. Please keep in mind that we are both ADHD, but only I am medicated. I might not be dealing with a person who can change easily. Then again, change is difficult for me too.
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Post by HooDunnit on Oct 9, 2004 18:28:12 GMT -5
In my home, my wife tends to be like that, and I do much of the housework. But I can't touch any of her mess / piles of stuff. She doesn't want me to move anything. Most of it is in her office in the basement or the bedroom. There is also an antique cabinet in the living room that she piles stuff on. And her bathroom is that way. So there are many designated spots where she piles and I cannot, on pain of death, touch any of it. So I don't. I ignore it all. So perhaps, in your kitchen, you could have a designated table or something to put things on. Then ask him to pile things on that. That would leave the counters open for the meal preparation.
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Post by tridlette on Oct 9, 2004 18:58:49 GMT -5
Wow, thank you! I thought at first that my DH wrote this post!
I AM the piler in our house. I get sooooooo frustrated every time he "cleans" and puts my stuff where I can't find it.
So, first thing I can say is don't think that my suggestion has every been tried or tested...
Can he put his stuff on the counter and when you clean it up, put it in the bag, but label the bag with either a date of cleaning or a title of what the contents of the bag are... and then have a designated "bag" depository?
It won't solve the problem of where stuff is at or that stuff gets dropped in the wrong spot, but it might make finding it later less chaos.
I will watch closely to see if any of the neat-niks here can solve this problem better! I need help at the clutter-er.
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Post by Linda on Oct 9, 2004 20:55:44 GMT -5
Welcome to my world!!!It is not my husband but Paul who does this!!!!I take all his "stuff" and pile it on his bed because if I don't it would be all over the house!!! I am one of those neat freaks so I guess If it was my hubby doing this I would probably put all of his things in a basket and say here it is!!!I know I am not much help here....but you sure are not alone!
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Post by shardstar on Oct 10, 2004 10:02:06 GMT -5
Well, I'm glad to know that I'm not alone!
I WILL keep an eye out here, though, because there has to be some great solution to this problem.
The problem is that we don't have a huge kitchen. It's the one thing I hate about this house! The kitchen is attached to the family room and there isn't even room for a kitchen table. What we have is a double counter between it and the family room, with barstools on the fr side. When you walk into the house, you pass the living room, and then straight into the family room on the left and the kitchen on the right. That's why this has become the depository. That's why I like to keep some resemblance of cleanliness in there, also, because that's where everyone hangs out.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions, and keep them coming!!!!
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Post by finnmom on Oct 10, 2004 10:03:17 GMT -5
Oh my, you have been sneaking on my window´s, obviously ;D I hate pile´s!!! And I have 4 people piling thing´s in here My hubby seem´s to think that there is no better place to put thing´s than the one that happend´s to be right on sight Kid´s do the same too. Every day I just walk through the house, pointing pile´s for them " This doesn´t belong in here, put it somewhere it belong´s or you´ll find it from the dumpster" Mean, I know, but I just CANT stand pile´s!!! I try to theach the kid´s to take care of their thing´s, sometime´s they realize that "the thing" their most valuable, is missing.... hmmmm... could you have stored it somewhere else NOT in my counter So far.... no pbvious improvement I´ll be watching if someone come´s up with a good solution!!! But you´re not alone
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Post by tridlette on Oct 10, 2004 10:57:46 GMT -5
Oh my, you have been sneaking on my window´s, obviously ;D " This doesn´t belong in here, put it somewhere it belong´s or you´ll find it from the dumbster" Oh Marja, don't be mad... but what a wonderful laugh I had with this. In case someone else reads this who isn't familiar with you, I will point out that English is NOT your first language, and sometimes you spell words the way they sound to you! DUMB ster is a great word, but the correct word is DUMP ster. Those of us who can't get our homes de cluttered could use someone like you putting our junk in a dumbster or a dumpster!
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Post by finnmom on Oct 10, 2004 12:47:04 GMT -5
Trid ;D I´am glad I got you laughing ;D Better laughing that crying anyway ;D
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Post by SKay on Oct 10, 2004 13:57:08 GMT -5
Well, we have a similar problem, although DH doesn't seem to mind when I move his stuff. I just move it over to the pile on the desk. To tell you the truth, I feel a little hypocritical here, because I also have piles and I would be not just angry but lost and insecure if my husband moved them. The difference is that I keep them in the bedroom where no one coming into the house will see them. Can you compromise by finding an out-of-the-way place for him to let him pile his things? Or what about a basket to put them in so it looks neater?
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 10, 2004 14:13:58 GMT -5
I'm a piler, so when I clean out LOOK OUT. That being said, get a square clothes basket and just start dumping stuff in there. If he need it, he'll find it in there. When I piddle around and put stuff away where it belongs, since no one KNOWs how to put pencils back or pens either >:(I one of them asks me if I have seen something. GO SEE IF IT"S PUT WHERE IT BELONGS :oNow why on earth would it be put there
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Post by jdmom on Oct 11, 2004 13:38:03 GMT -5
I have a large wicker basket on my kitchen counter that I pile crap in. Then about once a week or so, when I clean house, I go through the basket and trash the stuff that wasn't really important, but wound up there anyway , take all the bills out and shove them in my purse to take to work to pay during my lunch hour, then put the rest of it in the right places. Sometimes the basket overflows, but if company comes in you can just pick it up and shove it somewhere. P.S. - paying my bills at work really keeps down the clutter! I have files in my desk that I store stuff in and keep locked. Plus we have a postage machine that we can use as long as we pay for the postage.
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 12, 2004 11:08:52 GMT -5
Oh that's a good idea, I try that every so often I have found that if I put one of those quart size strawberry baskets on the counter, it helps when I am in a rush-----OK< ALL THE TIME>I put all the soup labels and upc's and boxtops and everything else that happens to fit in it. Then monthly if I remember I go through it and get it all sorted out, send the things in with hte kids and what have ya. Oh and that is also where the little screws and nuts and bolts go, in case he is working on something and I find extra's laying around.
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Post by shardstar on Oct 12, 2004 11:35:56 GMT -5
OK, I'm going to try the basket idea. There will be a basket that is designated to only him and no one else can put their stuff in there! I'll put it in the dining room. That way no one will see it unless they actually go in there, which they usually don't.
I guess if I can't change DH, which it looks like is NOT going to happen, I just have to figure out a way around the situation. He'll never stop plopping things down on the kitchen counter, so I guess I just have to suck it up and get over it. Oh, by the way, today is out 13th wedding anniversary!!!!! ;D
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Post by rosyred45 on Oct 12, 2004 11:41:31 GMT -5
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Post by milesofsmiles on Oct 12, 2004 13:47:07 GMT -5
Gotta love the redirection.... been on the receiving end of it many times.... Miles
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