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Post by Mayleng on Jul 4, 2004 12:04:38 GMT -5
Ladies have you heard about this Dr. He is in Clearwater Florida and in alot of Alternative Meds articles etc. He is very involved with Stroke patients and supposed to have alot of successes. His application of Vasodilators is supposed to help ADHD/Tourettes/Autism etc. I was wondering if in your "studies and search" you might have come across some info (aside from those put out by his institution) about his "patented treatment". Here's the link to his site. Check out this link. Has anyone heard about his treatment - success or otherwise. What do you think? www.hni-online.comand some comments from others about his Nobel Peace Prize Nomination. www.almaz.com/nobel/wwwboard/messages/222.htmlWould appreciate your comments etc. Thanks |
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Post by catatonic on Jul 4, 2004 14:46:50 GMT -5
Mayleng, I am not familiar with this specific doctor, but the use of vasodilators in treating ADHD is a very interesting new avenue of potential treatment. There's a certain allure to it, since it seems to pinpoint an actual physical cause for ADHD, and one that is treatable by an existing class of relatively safe medications. There's even a certain scientific logic to it, since vasodilators have been successfully used to treat mental impairment associated with diseases of aging (such as stroke and Parkinson's). I see two major problems with using this treatment, however. First is that the use of vasodilators has NOT been studied in connection with ADHD, so there is no evidence either way whether it might help or not. Second is that there is no evidence that vascular problems within the brain are associated in any way with ADHD, let alone that they might be a causative factor. This is not quackery, however. Use of vasodilators in stroke and Parkinson's victims has achieved sufficient respectability that it can now be covered by medical insurance. That's a pretty big step. It seems to me, though, that use of this particular form of therapy in connection with ADHD is purely speculative. It might be worth trying this, despite the fact that vasodilators are not risk free. (They're not particularly hazardous, however.) You can attempt a natural form of vasodilation and see if it holds promise in your child's case. One of the most effective natural vasodilators is vincamine (or its derivative vinpocetine) which you can buy in a health food store or online vitamin shop. Like the prescription versions, this has demonstrated some success in stroke and Parkinsons patients. For those who use clonidine for ADHD and are saying, "Wait, that's an antihypertensive and my doctor presccribed it for ADHD"...clonidine is NOT a vasodilator. Clonidine is an antihypertensive which is sometimes prescribed for ADHD, but its mechanism of action is not vasodilation, but rather inhibition of the epinephrine process. Technically, it is referred to as an "alpha adrenergic agonist". It is NOT a vasodilator, but rather it makes the blood vessels stop responding to messages telling them to constrict -- and to messages telling them to dilate. You can read about clonidine here: www.fragilex.org/html/clonidine.htmHope this helps some. The bottom line for me is that while there's a certain logical sense to the whole vasodilator issue, there's a rather overwhelming lack of data... |
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 4, 2004 18:10:54 GMT -5
Thanks Catatonic, I appreciate your thoughts. I thought it sounded pausible and intriguing but like you said, I am weary because of the lack of data supporting this with regards to ADHD and LDs etc.
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Post by ohmama on Jul 6, 2004 0:31:41 GMT -5
Mayleng,
I'm afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of an opinion on this doctor. I'm just not familiar with him. Has he written any books that you know of? For me, when I get my hands on a book I can really pick things apart and do research better.
It sounds like Catatonic is once again the bomb! Don't you just love her?
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 6, 2004 8:53:05 GMT -5
Mayleng, I'm afraid I don't have much to offer in the way of an opinion on this doctor. I'm just not familiar with him. Has he written any books that you know of? For me, when I get my hands on a book I can really pick things apart and do research better. It sounds like Catatonic is once again the bomb! Don't you just love her? Yes, she is the Bomb.  |
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Post by catatonic on Jul 6, 2004 10:07:42 GMT -5
You guys are so nice! I made my 15-year-old read your comments so that he could see that not everyone in the world agrees with him that I require many significant improvements in order to be acceptable!!!
-- The Bomb --
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Post by Mayleng on Jul 6, 2004 12:01:46 GMT -5
You guys are so nice! I made my 15-year-old read your comments so that he could see that not everyone in the world agrees with him that I require many significant improvements in order to be acceptable!!! -- The Bomb -- "The Bomb", you're too funny ;D . I hope your son realizes what a great and knowledgeable mom he has. Maybe, I'll change your signin name and call you "the BOMB" from now on. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by rosyred45 on Jul 6, 2004 18:26:42 GMT -5
Oh Good, you just reassured me that Mikey will make it past 6, which is in a couple hours.....I can hold out that long, maybe ;D He will be coming home from the inlaws who give him everything that he SHOULDN'T HAVE  So it'll be a week of detox over here for him  |
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