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Post by AustinsMom on Nov 18, 2003 21:11:36 GMT -5
Has anyone tried glyconutritional supplements with their child? I had read research on it's effectiveness with ADHD (e.g. this link www.resultsproject.net/addadhd.html ) and tried Ambrotose, a product of the Mannatech company. The existing research indicates that it has the most impact on oppositional behavior. I used one capsule, twice a day. Initially I noticed a very positive response. Once he was on it a few weeks, I stopped, to look for changes and check my perception, and noticed a definite increase in argumentativness. At about this time is when we had the Strattera crisis, and everything got crazy. Now we are settled back in a more normal state, and I got some feedback from a Naturopathic doctor today, who highly recommends the glyconutritional supplement. He says I am doing way too small a dose to be therapeutic, that I should be giving 2-3 tsp. a day, which is the equivalent of 10 capsules. His take is that it is a natural substance, and you cannot over do it. Since I had a good initial result, I am going to try the higher dose. Just wanted to see if anyone had any experience with it. I'd be thrilled to find a "magic pill" to decrease the arguing and opposition:-) |
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Post by catatonic on Nov 19, 2003 8:19:40 GMT -5
AustinsMom -
I did some research on Ambrotose not too long ago (long enough for the papers to get buried somewhere in the office, however). I will uncover them at some point today and post a detailed answer on this product. I do remember that it was VERY expensive. However, more info shortly...
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Post by Kimmers on Nov 19, 2003 10:11:10 GMT -5
Wow, I would love to try this but Cat said it is expensive...  I will look forward to your next post on this Cat! Kimmers |
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Post by catatonic on Nov 20, 2003 1:09:38 GMT -5
Ambrotose and this whole glyconutrients thing is an issue I'm very ambivalent about. I'm bothered by the fact that with the whole multi-level marketing thing they've got going, the distributor keeps a real stranglehold on the product and that keeps prices jacked up sky high. This stuff costs a fortune. (At 10 capsules daily, you'll be spending $175 a month on it.)
On the contens of ambrotose specifically...it contains 2 things, the larch tree extract (arabinogalactan) and the "proprietary formula" which is a mix of 8 simple sugars:
Fucose
Galactose
Glucose
Mannose
N-AcetylGalactosamine
N-AcetylGlucosamine
N-AcetylNeuraminic Acid
Xylose
Can a sugar pill do anything at all for you? Well, maybe. If you take a look at the medical research, there is evidence that the use of glyconutrients may help boost the body's immune system. That's a good thing. And it's been noted in a number of studies.
I haven't seen any solid research indicating it has any impact on ADHD symptoms, just anecdotal stories, which certainly have their own value, just not as a complete replacement for real research.
Even those who sell Ambrotose are careful to call it an "immune system" aid. They make no official claims about any impact on ADHD. This doesn't necessarily mean it won't help. It could simply mean it hasn't been adequately examined yet.
It's certainly hard to see that this product could hurt you in any way. (Other than in the wallet.) If you believe it's given you good results, stick with it. And make sure to post your results, so that we can all benefit from your experience!
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Post by Kimmers on Nov 20, 2003 9:55:06 GMT -5
Once again, Cat. Thanks for the good info. I think I will pass on the $175 month though!
Kimmers
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Post by AustinsMom on Nov 20, 2003 10:52:13 GMT -5
The ND that I saw has a cheaper version. He said he has visited the Mannetech HQ, and is really disillusioned by their pricing and the whole multi level marketing thing. In his words, he's in the health care business, not the pyramid scheme business. So he has purchased their one ingredient that they have the patent on, from them, and has made his own bulk form. He said the price differential is what would cost $130 from Mannatech, costs $40 from him.
At the 2 pills/day that I was doing, the cost wasn't outrageous, but this new dosage would be. He said I'd see the difference in a week if I used a therapeutic dose. Since I have enough Ambrotose to try that, that's what I'm doing. If I find it is helpful, I am going to explore his blend more fully--find out specific ingredients, etc. So I'm viewing this as an experiment and will keep you all posted.
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Post by Kimmers on Nov 20, 2003 14:26:06 GMT -5
Okay, this is going to be dumb question but why do you have to take so many in a day? Why can't they just make one tablet that contains 100% daily intake?
Just wondering...
Kimmers
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Post by AustinsMom on Nov 20, 2003 17:56:56 GMT -5
They do make a bulk powder. Since I thought we were only going to be taking 2 a day, and Austin does great with pills, I ordered the pills. But once I was told I should be giving 2 tsp a day, I dumped pills and measured, and it's 10. So obviously the powder is what we would want now, if we decide its useful.!
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Post by Kimmers on Nov 21, 2003 9:55:54 GMT -5
So how much does the powder cost? How is that given...mixed in a drink or something? Where do you even find it?
Thanks for the info!
Kimmers
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Post by AustinsMom on Nov 24, 2003 19:01:06 GMT -5
Kimmers,
Yes, the powder is mixed in a drink. My son likes to take it in the smallest amount of liquid possible so he can down it quickly. That makes it a little gritty, but he'd rather do that than dissolve it more fully in more liquid. Till I decide if it works, I'm just emptying the Ambrotose capsules I have. I'm goint to explore the other bulk option if I decide to continue. I'll keep you posted on cost and how to get. It's been hard to measure progress because we had out of town guests all weekend, and Austin had 2 birthday parties to attend. It's hard to see if there is any change in all that chaos! So I'm going to keep on and see what I think.
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Post by Kimmers on Nov 25, 2003 10:08:36 GMT -5
Well keep me posted on the progress you see and also the cost involved.
Thanks
Kimmers
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