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Post by crillmom on Nov 19, 2003 14:52:20 GMT -5
Dad to brooke
Has your daughter been on any anti-depresents. When my son was first diagnosed we put him on paxil about 2 years ago. Wow, what a life saver. It turned an anxiety ridden chiold into the person he once was. It allows him to have a "normal" childhood. he is able to be carefree and enjoy life. He is now on lexapro and is having the same results. As much as it pains me to put him on meds it allows him to be a child. Ask your Dr. to look into anti-deppressents for your daughter. It could change your lives
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Post by AnneM on Nov 19, 2003 14:58:42 GMT -5
Greattttttt... Another half step back. Don't these children suffer enough?  I will definately discuss this with Brooke's next health care professional. I agree - they do suffer enough ... and "another" disorder is just not what we want to add to our kids' diagnosis.... but as Linda and I (both with 15 year olds) have mentioned - many of these things really DOOOO improve hugely with age ... honestly they DO!! |
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Post by eaccae on Nov 19, 2003 16:06:12 GMT -5
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Post by Dad2Brooke on Nov 19, 2003 23:17:12 GMT -5
Dad to brooke Has your daughter been on any anti-depresents. Ask your Dr. to look into anti-deppressents for your daughter. It could change your lives No, she has never been on anti-depressants. I am going to have to do some more research. I know she obsesses on things, but it isn't (I believe) detrimental to her performance. It's more of an annoyance. Accordingly, I am reluctant to have any more letters added to her diagnosis. But I will keep it in mind. |
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Post by Dad2Brooke on Nov 19, 2003 23:18:45 GMT -5
Well, now I know where to start my research ;D Thanks eaccae ;D |
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Post by MommaToFive on Nov 20, 2003 0:17:35 GMT -5
I am also very reluctant to add anything else to ds9... we have enough on our plates right now.....  But also will mention it.... Thanks for the info and for the links.... Erin |
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Post by loveforeric on Nov 20, 2003 1:05:53 GMT -5
AnneM;
Thank You for the criteria on OCD. My sons pediatrician has said he has this but with dealing with ADHD Dx, I floundered.....
Having it in black and white makes it real and accepting it easier.
I will do more to help Eric with this..Don't our kids have enough on their plate.
Have a peaceful day,
Christina 
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Post by AnneM on Nov 20, 2003 12:23:05 GMT -5
I think eaccae says it all here - particularly by posing the question: Is it interfering with your child's life or school? .... If not (and it is simply an "annoyance" s Dad2Brooke points out) then I personally would say we should accept it as part of our child's overall make-up and not become too bogged down in adding another "label" .... Personally I prefer to look at it as simply a very common "part and parcel of the adhd package" ... On the other hand if the obsessions are extreme and really interfering detrimentally with the child's life and possibly rituals are also involved THEN this should be looked at more closely .... Anyway ... that's my 2 cents worth ....  |
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Post by crillmom on Nov 20, 2003 12:36:39 GMT -5
in our situation my son was diagnosed first with ocd. not until that was treated did the add come to light. his anxiety is the primary diagnosis. at the time the ocd was truley impacting his life. like I stated earlier there have never been conpulsions but his thoughts were so distressing that it was really effecting his life. at this point his anxiety is completely in control. he was put back on anti-depressent because his anxiety was manifesting itself as emotional outbursts. being he is now in 4th grade this was impacting his social life. since putting him on lexepro his life is wonderful!!!
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Post by sassysmom on Nov 26, 2003 11:21:18 GMT -5
My daughter was diagnosed with ocd when she was 10 yrs. old. She is now 15. She has only shown obsessional behavior. It's one thing when your child obsesses over toys or getting his/her own way but when they start to get thoughts like hurting people or themselves it's a whole new ballgame. She has been in counseling and has been treated with different SSRI's which help somewhat but not completely. You can't stop their suffering or the depression that sometimes comes along with it and it makes you feel helpless to not be able to do anything for your child.
Another thing...all the screaming, reasoning, etc. will not stop the child from obsessing. Have your child evaluated if you think they really have ocd.
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Post by rosyred45 on Nov 27, 2003 9:12:27 GMT -5
As I work, and have worked, with a variety of kids, I am wondering a couple things. And if anything sounds niave, it is.
Mikey has only been the ADHD dx for about a year, he doesn't have any other labels or letters. So I hope I'm not stepping out of line writing in here.
Mikey does better with a difinitve routine, and a couple other children I work with are the same, if anything is different, it's a big, mess.
I know that kids all deal differently, just as adults do, but when is OCD usually noticed? I do have a boy I work with, I think he's 13, who is ADHD/OCD. The biggest thing that I notice about him is that the clock is almost like a demon. Every thing HAS to be on a time table. Everything in its place.....
I know that he is on meds, and they usually are about done by the time he gets to us. We aren't allowed to medicate as we have no RN, school board rules. What is the best way to calm him? I see that he gets flustered very easily after the meds wear off, and I feel like my hands are tied because I DON"T know how to help him deal.
THANKS
Kaiti
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Post by AnneM on Nov 27, 2003 12:55:04 GMT -5
This OCD discussion is really fascinating me ... partly because before this thread it had never, ever occurred to me that my son HAS OCD!! ... It wasn't mentioned at the time of his diagnosis, I was "naive" enough to think that rituals had to be involved (!) but I honestly have to put my hands up and say my son is certainly obsessive (and much moreso when younger) about certain things and in fact (again much moreso when younger) was compulsive too. No he doesn't have "rituals" etc. but I now understand these are not necessary for our kids to have OCD ... If he(my son) gets an idea into his head it can last 24/7... and really only disappears when the "idea" is spent (i.e. achieved!) I guess it is easy to say that the obsessiveness/compulsiveness (in our case) is not "obtrusive" enough to be looked at as an individual diagnosis ... BUT I have definitely learned (since this thread started!) that I am living in cloud cuckoo land if I don't think my son has 'at least' very strong traces of this disorder.... The good news is (which I hope is good news for those with younger children) that this has watered down CONSIDERABLY as he has got older (he is now 15) ... Kaiti: (Rosyred): I could relate to the clock being so important with the boy in your school. My son (again this has improved a lot with age - but is still there... !) He is 'upset' if he is kept behind at school even for 2-3 minutes! Recently he had to catch a train. He was there 1 hour early but insisted upon waiting on the platform "because I don't want to miss it!" ... (??) I collect three kids from school and UNFAILINGLY my son is the first one out and into the car.... (unless of course he has been kept back for a few minutes  ) .... HOWEVER, he really doesn't seem to mind a change in routine etc. so I can't relate to the "sticking to the timetable" bit .... There has been some chat about ocd going "unnoticed" and speaking for my son I have to say I think this can be very, very true!! I really do have to reiterate that this has improved A LOT with age .... but this thread has been an amazing "eye-opener"!! (THANKS EVERYONE!!) |
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Post by rosyred45 on Nov 27, 2003 14:28:10 GMT -5
Thanks for relating.
This boy for the most part is comfortable when he is with us, but he isn't with us everyday. I feel really bad, especially at the end of last marking period. His one teacher kept yelling at him because he was being"silly" and acting out in class.
To me, that was saying he was having a problem, needed the attention, and got it negatively. I have to admit, I have quick to jump on some kids, because they a attracting negative behavior, but his was out of being lost and out of control.
We I spoke to the teacher about this, she just chalked it up to wanting the attention. WELL< DUH. He did need the attention, but not in a bad way.
I will let this boy follow me around and jabber my ear off, because, #1: he's out of his "comfortable environment" and #2 he's not hurting a soul. He gets his homework done. He does have diet restrictions, healthwise, not hyper wise, so I let him pick out from the cabinet his own snack. If the kids ask, I let him tell them in his words.
I hope I'm doing him the favor by letting him explain it. There are a few other kids with severe food allergies, adn they usually pipe up and tell their story too.
Well, gotta Get
Kaiti
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Post by AnneM on Nov 29, 2003 15:43:11 GMT -5
Kaiti - From where I am standing it sounds like you are doing all the RIGHT things for this young boy. A lot of what you are saying reminds me of my own son when he was younger including the strive for attention including the being yelled at for being 'silly' and acting out in class.... I just wish that my son had had someone looking out for him like you when he was younger!
I was also thinking of our discussion about the clock .... and it got me thinking that there is a very positive side to any of our kids being so "clock conscious" .... and that is that my son has honestly never been late (whether this be for school or for an appointment or a train OR ... and this is where it has been a big advantage to me ... coming home one time!) .... My 15 year old has always, always come home either at the time we have set or often earlier... which has saved a lot of worry, sweating and arguments when compared with those who are totally not time conscious!! As a parent I think this is a BIG advantage ;D
If he is due to meet anybody, anywhere you can guarantee he will be AT LEAST 5 minutes early. When I am picking him up from somewhere I often get a call (5-10 minutes before the due time) saying "WHERE are you??" ....
HOWEVER, I do wish for his sake that he wasn't quite so 'clock driven' !
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Post by Christiansmom on Nov 29, 2003 19:39:17 GMT -5
I was reading this post on Obsessions and I was wondering if anyone else out there has had this experience with their child:
Has your child ever obsessed about wanting things to be in a particular order, or trying to change the behavior of others because he wants things to be a certain way... for example- at school, my son will be standing in line with his class and will become very emotional if the child in front of him does not stand perfectly still. He will ask the child to stop and then start to cry uncontrollably if they don't.
He just started taking Metadate CD and although he has always had a mild obsession with lining toys up in rows, these others are new and can be quite difficult to deal with. He gets angry if I don't put toys in the toybox just the right way!!! Could this just be a side effect of the medication and if so, will it go away in the future??? Any ideas would be very helpful!! Thank you.
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