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Post by milesofsmiles on Dec 12, 2003 9:53:03 GMT -5
Saw one of those crawlers going along the bottom of CNN in the wee hours of the morning where there is a group of people trying to block the post office from giving out an address to Santa's home (workshop). They are saying there is no sense in promoting a false belief to children. Maybe I read it wrong, but I thought that is what it said. So who is Santa? If Santa is the spirit that comes over us to give from the heart, then I do believe that he exists. I can see that in the spirit of political correctness that Santa is tied to Christmas, and no one wants to offend the other religions, so don't celebrate anything. Don't give hope to anyone. Don't promote anything. Let's all be the same..... Sorry for being so cynical, must be the lack of sleep. Oops, the soap box just got kicked out from under me....  Miles |
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Post by DanielsMom on Dec 12, 2003 10:05:44 GMT -5
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Post by finnmom on Dec 12, 2003 10:55:13 GMT -5
Of course there is Santa  For children he is more personal than for adult´s. i think santa is the spirit of christmas, whatever you believe, christmas make´s you react other way to thing´s . If óne doesnt want to shop, spend money, stress one out, they can celerate the middle of winter, at my corner of wood´s it´s the darkest time of the year. At 22th of dec. is the day of the year when night is the longest , sun goes down aproximately at 2.30-3.00 pm and come´s up again at 9ish am. And keep in mind that I live in southern Finland, in Lappland there has been NO sun for a month, it`ll show up again in feb.(I think) So you can figur why we celebrate with light´s and candle´s  Happy holidays!! Marja LOOK AT THOSE STARS |
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Post by Honeysmom on Dec 12, 2003 12:04:22 GMT -5
I know there is a Santa. Santa is the spirit that makes you feel so warm ans cozy on Chirstmas Eve when you are sitting home with your family looking at the tree. Santa is the spirit who makes just the right amount of snow fall on Christmas so everything looks like a picture, and Santa is the spirit who reminds how nice it is to give to others during the holiday season.
Of course CNN doesn't know this because they are too factual, they have to listen to what is inside and they will know who Santa is too.
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Post by jdmom on Dec 12, 2003 14:35:21 GMT -5
I have a problem with my ex-in-laws telling my child(6) that there is no Santa. It just burns me up! They say that telling him there is a Santa is lying to him and that belief in Santa takes away form the true meaning of Christmas (Jesus' birth). They exchange gifts and decorate and stuff, but none of the decor or wrappings can have Santa on them.
My son knows what Christmas is about. He makes me make birthday cake on Christmas day for Jesus. We go to church. He can recite the entire Christmas story. That's not an issue.
It has been a battle. It may be childish, but I finally broke down and told him that they don't believe in Santa becasue they weren't good enough when they were kids for Santa to come see them. He hasn't brought it up since, and he still talks about Santa like he believes. I just don't think it's right for them to take that away from him. He doesn't have many of those "magical" years left as it is.
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Post by adhdtimes4 on Dec 12, 2003 16:02:07 GMT -5
WELL, at OUR house we don't believe in Santa. WE believe in Papa Noel.  He comes all the way across the ocean to children with a Baba (Dad) from Lebanon. In a helicopter. Seriously, we have always had Papa or Santa or whatever you want to call him. We have a little figurine of Papa (who looks remarkably like Santa) kneeling at the manger. I think that it says how our family feels. Cool story: Once, the year our baby was stillborn, I went outside shortly after midnight to throw the reindeer's grass out. (I know, he comes in a helicopter...but we don't have to be consistent.) Anyway, there on the front porch were several packages for our family. Every single thing my kids had asked for was in there. AND there was a card with some money in it - signed "Love, Papa Noel". We never found out who did it. My parents lived far away, and they didn't arrange it. (They would have admitted it.) Who could have known exactly what my children wanted, and who knew that we say Papa Noel instead of Santa? I believe. |
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Post by kellys4babies on Dec 12, 2003 19:25:47 GMT -5
I think that it is up to the family to decide whether santa is real or not. Our kids know the christmas story but they still think that santa bring the gifts christmas eve while they are asleep. They know that we get them gifts and as well as other family members. I play up this time of yer with doing lots of family traditions. I think santa is in the spirit of christmas. Just dont lose sight of the reason for the season. Kelly |
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Post by Honeysmom on Dec 13, 2003 11:33:29 GMT -5
Adhdtimes4, your story gave me goosebumps!! We tell our kids that they get gifts from Santa as another present from Jesus. We tell them that Jesus gives us lots of gifts and every year he reminds us by having a big birthday party. My BIL tried to tell Honey that there is no Santa a few weeks ago and I told him that of course there is, who else could afford to get him all of those nice presents. He is really into money lately and is convinced everything is expensive, you name it, he thinks it costs thousands of dollars. I love the excitement I see when they see Santa at a store or a parade, I don't want that to be ruined. I suppose that is more for me than them. |
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Post by sierra on Dec 13, 2003 16:35:06 GMT -5
Bean Sprout is 15 and this is the first year he's dared even mention the possibility that there might not be a Santa.
I tell the sprouts every year that I believe in Santa because if I don't believe in Santa then he might not believe in me. Where would I be then? I say it with a straight face too.
adhdtimes4 your story really touched me too.
I remember when I was very young. Maybe 5. I was too excited and a little scared that Santa might not find us that year because we had just moved. I wound up sleeping in my parents' bed. I woke up in the middle of the night because I heard the refrigerator door open. The bed was full. All present and accounted for.
So who was in the refrigerator? I had no doubts who! I still remember being so thrilled that Santa had figured out where we lived!
We don't put grass out for the reindeer. But I like that tradition. Just might add it this year. We've always left 9 carrot slices on a plate right beside Santa's cookies and egg nog. One carrot for each of the 8 reindeer and one for Rudolph too.
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Post by AnneM on Dec 13, 2003 16:43:53 GMT -5
Miles I am right on that soapbox with you!! ... Santa is PART of Christmas when you are Christian and young!! ... It takes nothing away from other religions and I like to think (maybe in an ideal world) that we ALL respect each other's beliefs and ideas ... but if you believe in christmas you believe in Santa .... My son believed in Santa for all those years when he was small and the "magical feeling" that came with that was just so huge ... leaving out the refreshments for Santa and in the morning him shouting "He's BEEN and he ate ALL the mince pie!" ... oh and of course the carrot for the reindeer!.... (always well chewed in the morning!) Now he is 15 and the days in believing in Santa are well gone ... but I wouldn't have changed those "believing" years for anything !! I say BAH HUMBUG to those who try to tell us there is no Santa!!  |
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Post by on_edge on Dec 13, 2003 17:30:14 GMT -5
We have told DD (6) that Santa is a gift from Jesus to help bring happiness to children.
I was shopping the other day with a friend. While standing in line, we were laughing at a child who kept talking about Santa coming soon. It was just so cute. The woman in the next line actually turned and told that child that she was sick of d**n Santa and his mother is a liar. Well, my friend, who has no problem voicing herself, told the child that the woman was really grinch's sister and she goes to the stores to steal the Christmas Spirit from families. I don't know if my friend was right or wrong, but that kid just got the giggles every time he looked at that woman again.
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Post by Amsmom on Dec 13, 2003 20:21:14 GMT -5
Along with grass, another thing you an put outside for the reindeer is glitter, so they can see your house from the sky. We have a little townhouse, so ds7 and I sprinkle just a little on the porch out side our front door, but if you have a driveway or yard, I'm sure that would be a great place to put it. |
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Post by Linda on Dec 13, 2003 21:45:41 GMT -5
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Post by ridgerunner on Dec 13, 2003 23:58:39 GMT -5
My cousin's children don't believe  But she has taught them that when others do that you don't try to tell them any different. She explained that different people believe in different things. Her "reason" for her "attitude" is that she doesn't "want them to find out about Santa and then think that because everyone celebrates Jesus' birth during Christmas that they aren't real because you can't see them." I told her I always believed in Santa and it didn't hurt me!  Another fried's children call Santa the Christmas clown. They are strange...very strange. Didn't even want to know the excuse behind that one. I know that I love giving gifts to all those that are near and dear to me. I also help with the toy drive at our church. We will be Santa's helpers for 178 children so far this year. We will be taking pictures of Santa and all the kids at our church tomorrow night. The cute part is that all the kids know the guy who will be helping us. They say he is helping Santa because Santa is so busy. (this comes from Holly who is 4 1/2) Sorry this got so long. I hope that Santa comes to visit everyone of you. A M ridgerunner |
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Post by LitlBaa on Dec 14, 2003 2:02:59 GMT -5
Here's another vote for Santa! I asked Santa at the mall for my bright red BMW Z4, and he said, "I'm Santa; I perform magic, not miracles!"
I thought that was a really good distinction...Santa does the Christmas magic, Jesus performs the miracles.
Merry, merry Christmas to all!
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Yes, there is!! I already wrote to him and he's supposed to bring me my dream dog. There better be a Santa!! 
