ISS for no belt?

[Kaiti]

I used to sneak clothes in that Mom didn't want me to wear, not the appropriate ones ;D ;D ;D

[DANIEL]

they going to hate me when my kids go to school, i have to wonder if they will do what i say to get rid of me or if they will try to fight me on things. i wish i could home school, but i think alot of what a child learns happens at school, the school itself being incidental. sure you can learn math and reading and history and so on, but social interaction, you cant teach at home. sorry you have all that trouble, i would not have let my kid go to iss but i am real stuborn, and to me most times the issue is far more important than the action, yes she has had trouble in the past with dress code but to punish a kid for forgetting something is not correction its revenge. it is a legal way to take out anger on a child that frustrates you. i hate people really i do, dont get me wrong i like individuals but man i hate people, they are petty, they are cruel, they suffer from huge egos that dibilitate them and cause them to be blinded to the source of their actions and oblivious to their ignorance...grrrr... sorry, i just get so mad to see people being misstreated especially children, adults have the ability to make a childs life heaven or hell and more often than not for no other reason than lack of maturity adults tend to make it hell, i am not speaking about anyone here. you all are great !!. oh well calming down now, hope things go well.
daniel

[Kaiti]

AMEN Daniel, I can see your point about the revenge. When kids get picked at by kids it's one thing, but to have the adults and educators do it is terrible.

[camismom]

Cami told me this afternoon that when she was in the office today her asst. princ. and the ap's secretary talked about me and laughed about it in front of her. When Ms. J called me (like she DIDN'T last week... hmm, wonder why she did today? lol) to tell me about Cam's punishment for the too short shirt, I told her ok, I was fine with it. That I had told her this morning she needed to change and she didn't... so THIS time I was fine with whatever she decided. I then took the opportunity to tell her that I still took exception to last week's though because I still fail to see how a beltless child is causing any disruption in a school.

Well, apparently they could hear me (Cami and the sec) on the phone, so when Ms. M heard me mention the belt Cami said she just started laughing and cont'd to laugh until Ms. J hung up with me. She then says to Ms. J, while still laughing. "She just starts that thing all over again. She just won't let that one go, huh?" Then Ms. J repies laughing, "huh, I guess not. " then they laugh together. She said this happened right in front of her.

I know this may be petty to some but it just boils my blood... if that was two students talking and laughing that way about a faculy member in front of another faculty member they would be given a points slip!

It just boils my blood that these adults that run these schools these days think they are so above the students! Two sets of rules.

This school is just a huge joke to me!!

[Linda]

I do not think it is petty at all Christy I hear this stuff daily at school and I think it is outrageous The way I look at it...if the staff is talking about students or adults in my presence...what are they saying about me behind my back

[camismom]

I wish I had a point slip to give them! I just may call the school's principal tomorrow and share this with him, then ask him how many "points" he thinks THEY deserve?

[mothercat]

Go right ahead ! They deserve whatever they get ..HOW RUDE!! ESPECIALLY in front of Cami!
Go get em!

[Linda]

Christy....you would be surprised all much the principals gossip too

[mothercat]

They should include a class in social politeness in the teaching degrees at colleges.

[Linda]

They take the classes but they don't learn a darn thing

[camismom]

Linda, I guess maybe I would. I worked in a school office for many years. I worked VERY closely with the principal, asst. principal, and the two guidance counselors....NEVER in all the years I was there did I hear them gossip, did I hear them bad mouth a parent, esp. in front of a student! They may get upset with one of the parents that came in their screaming and carrying on and vent a little when the parent left, but it was never insulting and again never in front of a student!

Just goes to show I worked with PROFESSIONALS, not the idiots than run my child's school.

[DANIEL]

the way i see it you can deal with this two ways, you can let them get awat with it or....you could become their worst nightmare. they look at you now like a doc looks at a hypocondriac, fine last time i checked doctors dont like them because they complain all the time and you can never satisfy them. i would look at it as a license to pester. call them daily about nothing at all and be annoying...very very very annoying, bug them to the point that the first thing they think about when they wake up in the morning is" god i dont want to go to work today that woman is going to call" make "you" the last thing they think about before you go to bed. and make sure your annoying but respectful, also make sure you record all the conversations. youll drive them mad youll increase their work load by keeping them on the phone all the time, and they will either stop using their position to mess with you or they will crack and do something they souldnt like insult you or cuss you out, you know just the kind of stuff you get fired for... thats what i would do, they would be helpless to do anything about it but stop their behavior, thats the diffrence between revenge and correcting behavior, you wont want to go through the hassel of doing this, because its not you and it requires a lot of effort on your part, but sometimes we must make sacrifices in order to teach
me i would do it, but i got issues with athority anyway.
(do we have a smiley face that has an evil grin )
daniel

[finnmom]

Christy

HOW RUDE CAN THEY BE Please dont let them go away with that, that´s not appropriate at all... o´kay, i know they do that, I´ve propably got my share too, but infront of Cami That is what get´s me mad I would totally nail them.....What ever you come up with, just let them know you dont take that "oh, another diffucult mom" thing They were wrong with the belt-insident and they were wrong laughing at you infront of Cami...period

[camismom]

Well, I've tried to call the principal a couple times today and couldn't get him, and now I have company in the computer room so can't talk privately, so I did up this email:

Mr. J,

I have been resisting the urge to approach you about this all day but several of my coworkers I talked to about it told me I should since the behavior I am reporting was unprofessional.

My daughter, Cami XXXX, was in the office yesterday due to a dress code violation. I understand my child isn't perfect, she is ADHD, and has apparently been in the office quite a few times due to the dress code. Last week she was given ISS for not wearing a belt (although she turned herself in for it). I voiced my disagreement about that and the belt issue all together to Ms. J in an email since it is hard for me to place and receive calls sometimes in my job. Cami was again in the office yesterday facing punishment for another dress code violation. Well apparently after I received a phone call from Ms. J about it (which I didn't get last week) her and Ms. M made a couple comments about something I said and laughed about it in front of Cami. Cami told me this last night and was pretty mad about it because as she said if this had been two students doing this about a faculty member they would have been given points for it. "Why is it ok for faculty to show disrespect to them or their parent but yet they are punished for it?", she asked. She asked me if I thought it was ok, and I told her no, but unfortunately sometimes adults do not act like adults. I work for a school district too and spent seven years in a middle school office. Never one time in those seven years did I ever hear one of our staff make fun of a parent , much less in front of the parent's child.

Anyway, this, according to Cami, is what happened:

Ms. J had Cami call me regarding the violation and punishment. Ms. J then got on the phone with me herself. While talking to her I told her I agreed with the punishment but still took exception to last week's because I fail to see how a beltless child is disrupting the school. Cami said her and Ms. M could hear me talking somewhat and could tell I had mentioned the belt incident. Ms. M then began to laugh out loud and continued laughing until after Ms. J got off the phone. She then said to Ms. J, while still laughing, "She just starts that thing all over again. She just won't let that one go, huh?" Then Ms. J replies laughing, "huh, I guess not. " then they laugh together. She said this happened right in front of her. She said she wanted to tell them she didn't appreciate them laughing about her mother, but knew she would get in trouble for smart-mouthing them.

I don't really expect anything to come of this I just thought you should be made aware of the unprofessionalism of the comments and laughing. I find it sad that a part of your faculty finds a parent's true and legitimate concerns humorous instead of serious... but I guess that's the difference in them and the faculty I worked with.

Thank you,

Christy XXXX
Computer Operator
XXXX County School District
XXXX, Georgia
(XX)XXX-XXXX

I tried not to be too harsh but it happened anyway. Oh well, this'll teach them to mess with me!

[finnmom]

Way to go Christy

It may not make any difference, but at least they might learn not to laught to you infront of your child And they know not to mess with you