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Post by Brenda on Sept 6, 2004 20:43:24 GMT -5
My daughter's school has a color chart for behavior.After the 2nd warning you miss recess.She has SI Dysfunction and ADHD and she needs that time to "run" around.She has missed recess a few times already.I am looking for ideas to suggest to her teacher other than missing recess for bad behavior.I know she needs to learn to control her behavior but making her sit through recess makes it worse.Any ideas?
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Post by MistyMorningPA on Sept 6, 2004 21:04:57 GMT -5
I agree that our kids especially need that time to burn off energy. May you could explain it to her teacher & come up with an alternative punishmen such as missing out on computer time or doing work during reading time or even missing out on a trip to the school's library. I'm sure if you & the teacher put your heads together you can come up with something suitable!
Good Luck!
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Post by bunny on Sept 7, 2004 6:41:34 GMT -5
I agree with you, kids should not miss recess. I would try for an alternative, but the teacher will need to instill it for the entire class. Perhaps give the students a choice between missing recess and a different consequence. My DS missed many, many recesses last school year for not fininshing his in class assignments.  I did'nt suspect the ADD-inattentive until spring. He had the hardest time completing these assignments, just couldn't keep his mind on them (he's very capable of the work). He found the whold situation very upsetting.  Anyway, I have already met with his 3rd grade teacher, and let her know what issues I feel he has. I also told her that I felt missing recess was NOT a good consequence for him. I suggested a reward of being able to read a certian book if the assignments are completed before others in the class (he loves to read, and gets lost in books). I'm not sure at this point what she has instituted, perhaps it is not yet a problem this year. I will be keeping in regular contact with the teacher. Luckily she seems really nice and understanding. Make your opinion known! Our kids have to spend many hours a day listening and being still. Why would any teacher take away their time to let loose?  |
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 7, 2004 7:10:00 GMT -5
In Mikey's 504 we have it to say he goes to the Guidence Counselor ASAP when somehting happens. That way the punishment is right there and he doesn't loose play time.
Is there a particular time of day that she is getting into trouble? Mikey always has a problem with transitions, like lining up or walking in the halls, so he was first or last in line to help that out, and it actually helped, much to my surprize.
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Post by Linda on Sept 7, 2004 7:35:16 GMT -5
If your daughter has a iep or 504...have it written in she is not to miss her resess.I am sure the teacher can come up with something else for discipline.
BTW I hate those discipline charts....sometimes the kids that get in the most trouble are focused on to much!!!!
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 7, 2004 7:47:13 GMT -5
Between being focused on too much, they get labeled by the KIDS. Mikey had the hardest time keeping friends. No one wanted to play with him...so he plays by himself, and it really has impacted his outlook towards kids his age. He plays with either older or younger kids, not ones his age. The parents love him to death because he'll help out in a minute and is so lovable and huggy, but it really does have an impact with missing the social interaction that is really needed on the playground. |
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Post by catseye on Sept 7, 2004 11:30:47 GMT -5
What types of offenses cause a missed recess?
I totally agree missing recess is defeating the purpose!! In my sd's IEP she has a behavior chart, BUT it rewards the good and tackles bad... For example sd likes computer time, they have the word computer written down... Each letter is 2 minutes time on computer, every "offense" gets a letter crossed out, the next week sd gets to use the time not crossed out... I like this better this way sd does see that being good gets you more computer time, being bad gets less computer time...
Could something like that be implemented or suggested...
cat
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Post by AnneM on Sept 7, 2004 12:28:13 GMT -5
I too totally agree that missing recess is a completely non-helpful punishment which in fact for our kids can be detrimental. I know when my own son was given a "missed recess" all it did was make him angry and resentful ... nothing more!
I like Catseye's suggestion (as per sd's school) where computer time (for example) is taken away or given depending upon behaviour. I would think this is a much more beneficial way of dealing with things for both the student AND the teacher! ...
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Post by eaccae on Sept 7, 2004 12:50:29 GMT -5
I, too, agree! Cat - I love that alternative! Behavior charts really need to be catered to the individual. I know the teacher probably has good intentions - but . . .
Alexander does not react well with behavior charts that dole out a negative punishment. (He missed almost every recess in Kindergarten). It backfires on him. He ends up purposefully doing something to get the punishment (I don't know why- maybe to have control - get the punishment out of the way? And he doesn't have behavior issues - but as soon as teh behavior chart was implemented - he did. As soon as it was stopped - so did the issues.). On the other hand - if he has to work for something he does really well - he would do great with Cat's chart.
His 4th grade teacher has an envelope for each child on the wall. Each child has $15 of play money in the envelope. There are a list of rules on the wall above and a dollar amount that is due if the rules are broken. I don't know what happens at the end of the year - what the money is used for (I'm sure we will find out at the open house) but that makes a lot more sense to me.
I definitely agree with everyone else that it should be written in an IEP or 504 to NOT miss recess. It is selfdefeating!!
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Post by Angelia on Sept 7, 2004 21:36:21 GMT -5
Brenda,
I agree with you totally! A missed recess for a child with adhd is just plain stupid! (sorry there was just know other way to put it!) I had a similar problem like this last year with my son. The final staw for me was when a teacher made him miss a whole recess for leaving a pair of siccors in his desk. I went up to the school, and told his teacher and others that if my son has done something so bad to be punished for it. I expect a phone call or a note home, and we would find another way of punishment if need be after we discussed it. I also told her that day that she had forgotten the day before to send my child to the nurse for his medicine, and I would like to now take away her hour that she gets to herself with no children in a school day! She did not like that idea much!!! I then explained to her that even adults that work have a break to release the tension from there jobs and she understood where I was comming from a little bit better!!
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Post by rosyred45 on Sept 8, 2004 9:28:49 GMT -5
Thats a great way to explain it. OSHA standards really hit hard when we think about the adults the rules affect.
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Post by jdmom on Sept 8, 2004 10:03:05 GMT -5
I suggesed to Jarrett's teacher last year that she send him to the gym to run instead of having him miss recess. That way he still gets to burn energy, but misses out on the "fun" of recess. She didn't like that idea though, because someone would have to to "supervise" him in the gym. In other words, she didn't want to miss her lunch.  At his school, 2 or 3 teachers take turns being on duty and the rest are PTO volunteers in the cafeteria with the kids. The teachers not on duty go to the lounge or can leave for lunch. However, she did get my point about not taking away his recess and worked something else out. Maybe you could try the running in the gym thing with your child's teacher? |
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Post by Brenda on Sept 8, 2004 15:10:33 GMT -5
Thanks for all the suggestions.I really need to get an IEP in place.I believe that would help alot.She has a good teacher that is willing to help her.I'm thinking we need to increase her Adderall xr because she's failed all three of her math tests she's had in the past three weeks.Maybe that will help her behavior so she won't miss recess again.She has tics so the med increase might increase her tics.I am so stressed and wish I could just take her ADHD away from her. |
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Post by catseye on Sept 8, 2004 15:21:56 GMT -5
Many hugs!! (((brenda & daughter)))
We all wish we could make it go away, I feel you pain and wish I could make it go away for you and your daughter.... Please try to take some time for you, mom being overly stressed wont help!! Take a hot bath, and just think... Also know you have friends here, who care, and hopefully can help in some way... Good luck
cat
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Post by Allanque on Sept 8, 2004 22:44:56 GMT -5
I think I missed most recesses my first 6 weeks in 5th grade...
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