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Post by Blue Oreo on Mar 30, 2005 12:00:43 GMT -5
Hey everyone.. I have a real problem here in the mornings still with my DD, who is 11 going on 3. She has chores to do in the mornings, (ie) getting herself dressed, making her bed and feeding the dogs. It seems simple enough, only it takes her almost an hour to get dressed alone. She will sit on her bed and dead stare at the walls, floor or something that catches her eye. She can stare for hours and then the drool starts. Once downstairs, it takes her another 20 minutes just to get her shoes on and tied. Her brothers are also ADHD and they get everything done in 30 minutes. I try not to compair, but she is getting slower by the day now. She cant seem to focus on whats at hand. We have tried almost every med possible for her, nothing seems to help. Her ODD is out of control too. She seems to be spending more time in her room grounded for her mouth and talking back to me and yelling at me all the time. Anyone else have this problem, with dead stares, zero focusing and the argueing to no end? I have tried everything possible the docs have said, just shy of placing her in a behavioral insititution here.  |
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Post by mom2tj on Mar 30, 2005 14:27:15 GMT -5
I wish I could help but I dont know what do say, ds is the same it takes forever to get dressed and when I go to his room he is spaced out ot playing with something, I have to get him up early and make him dress before he comes down to ear breakfast if he does this in time he gets to wach tv as he eats. some days I dont have the patience to wait so I sit in his room while he dresses I am not a morning person so I rather just let it go..... I hate to start the day yelling, the thing is he will be 10 in may, how long will this go on?
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Post by kurs10b on Mar 30, 2005 14:33:34 GMT -5
My son does this too, but we have somewhat solved the problem. I know it sounds stupid, but he sleeps in his t-shirt and pants (sweats) so in the morning all he has to do is shoes and socks. For those, I count. He has till 10 to get them, and 10 to put each one on. I count slow enough that he has 30 sec to a min per thing.
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Post by savvymom1 on Mar 30, 2005 20:29:40 GMT -5
I'm certainly not a doctor, so I may be shooting in the dark here--but could this be a sign of depression?
Sitting, barely moving, unmotivated... all sounds like what I've been reading up on lately (I have a 14 yr old dd recently diagnosed with bipolar). I'm not suggesting your child is bipolar, but depression surely comes to mind.
I would run this idea by your doc. If you've tried several meds and nothing has worked, maybe you need to see what another doctor thinks.
We have done our share of grounding our dd, too and it does not have the desired effect of enlightening her on how we want her to behave. It actually makes life worse! She has a lot of issues with authority, talking back, arguing, etc. All grounding seems to do is hurt her self esteem and self confidence. It is depressing to feel like a failure in your parents eyes.
I am so sorry you are having these problems. Boy, can I relate!! Hang in there.
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Post by Linda on Mar 30, 2005 20:33:14 GMT -5
savvymom might have a point. This would really worry me. What does her Doctor say?
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Post by mothercat on Mar 30, 2005 21:24:07 GMT -5
I would probably be making an appointment for a check up if it were me... whether its depression or not..something just doesnt sound right..  |
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Post by Blue Oreo on Mar 30, 2005 21:55:53 GMT -5
she does have depressions and is on meds for it. However, the "zoning" out isnt the depressions, its linked to other things she cant tell me, or doesnt seem to know. Some days are good, most are like this. I cant have her sleep in her clothes as some nights she sleeps so hard she wets her bed at 11yrs old. If a speck of dust is on the floor she zones out staring at it for hours it seems. I just got a call from her school tonight.. YIPPPEEEEE we have an IEP finally to get her more help there, been fighting with the schools for over 4 yrs now. She always scores one or two points above thier "limitation" score scales.. SO now the "no child left behind" is working for me, since I brought that up to them for passing her on to another school without proper teaching and learning in thier schools...
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Post by Blue Oreo on Mar 31, 2005 11:43:10 GMT -5
 yaaaaaaaaa this morning was smoother then yesterday. Things seem to be moving well for her and no dead staring at anything.  She went to bed at 8:30 and woke up at 7am, school bus is 8:30. She got her chores done WITHOUT massive promtps to move her tushy in gear.. yipppeeee I am a happy camper, no fights and mouthing back to me.. 
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Post by kurs10b on Mar 31, 2005 11:46:51 GMT -5
Congrats. Hope it goes well again tomorrow.
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Post by GSDMommy on Apr 1, 2005 14:51:18 GMT -5
Ummm......I hate to be a wet towel on your parade.....or whatever that metaphor was that I just mangled....
I echo the thoughts about the depression phase of a mood d/o. I dealt with that in my oldest for the longest and he still does it. The ODD may be the flip side of the depression, the manic phase. I know when my oldest misses his risperdal in the AM, he is mouthy and argumentative. The blank staring always annoyed the daylights out of me. It was almost like a brain seizure kinda thing. I have no idea what goes on in my eldest's head but sometimes I am thinking it looks like rush hour in L.A......deadlocked!!
I would still make the appointment though, even if the problem has "cleared up" cause that way the doc can watch the process.
Quick nosy question: Did the mouthy-ness get worse when she went on the depression meds? Did she seem to get more irritable? If she did, you may want to mention it to the doc. Sometimes anti-depressants will send mood d/o people manic and irritable.
Some thoughts.........
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Post by savvymom1 on Apr 1, 2005 20:23:17 GMT -5
Blue Oreo, I'm glad she had a better day! I know what a relief those good days are! I have thought about you two so much these last couple of days.
GSDmommy, I guess I'm throwing in a wet towel, too. Since my dd was diagnosed with bipolar in January, I've been doing a lot of reading and research on the subject.
Now Blue Oreo, I don't want to alarm you and I have no idea if I your dd has bipolar disorder, but, many things you mentioned; depression, zoning out, unmotivated, bed wetting, etc. are setting off alarms for me. You might want to check out some good websites, just to see what the other symptoms are.
Bipolar often hits girls in early adolescence. My 14 yr old dd had become very moody, irritable and aggressive at times. Other times she is overly happy, talkative and excited. Occassionaly, she gets extremely angry and scratches her arms with her nails and rages. It's very scary! She mentioned suicide thoughts to an older trusted friend. She couldn't settle down and go to sleep until 2:00 or 3:00 in the mornings. When I looked up a bipolar website, so many things clicked. We made an appt. with a psychiatrist, thank God!
My dd is on ADD meds (for 3 yrs), zoloft (for 2 1/2 yrs) and most recently Seroquel to help with the bipolar. Although zoloft helps with depression, it sometimes does not react well with bipolar disorder. Same for stim meds.
I have no answers. We are still in the early stages of trying to get meds right. Sorry I went off on this tangent, but something tells me you should look in to this subject, just in case it appies to your dd. I have your best interest at heart--I hope you are not offended by my concerns. My prayers are with you.
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Post by Linda on Apr 1, 2005 20:52:02 GMT -5
GSDMommy and savvymom...I don't think anyone is going to be offended...I would really like to thank you for so much information on B/P...and especially amsmom too. I have learned a lot from your experiences.
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Post by mothercat on Apr 1, 2005 21:46:54 GMT -5
If she scores a few points too high for the IEP Why haven't they given her a 504 as she qualifies . being adhd/odd. (they have alot of accomadations with a 504)
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Post by Blue Oreo on Apr 1, 2005 23:57:32 GMT -5
HURRRRAY.. we got an IEP today... training starts Monday. DD is on many drugs and she is also BiPolar.. She has many appts the end of this month for psych eval, mental health therapy, med controls, blood levels and whatever else they can think of. She is on risperdal in the PM, Wellburtrin, Abilify, Strattera, and double muilti vitamins, flaxseed oil tabs and has a PRN for Visteral for her "Blow Outs" of harmful behaviors. We have had her tested still she is blue in the face and shuts down and cries not wanting to do anymore. I am hoping the new Sped classes well help some and the tests at the end of the month. Today was hard again, she wont accept blame for anything she does, nothing is her fault and I get "WHAT DID I DO" with all responses. OH WELL>. so is life in a ADHD household.. wish me well.. lol
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Post by mothercat on Apr 2, 2005 0:05:22 GMT -5
hehe I get the same thing from my 15 year old from time to time..he isnt adhd or anything like that he has an disease called teenageridus .. they say that they do get over it someday..I hope your days go much better
and I feel for ya . ;D (my hubby took wellbutrin for awhile once when he was trying to quit smoking..it made him so he was a zombie and couldn't focus on anything so he had to stop it)
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