Is it possible??

[momto3wolves]

My 7 yo son is going to be tested soon for ADHD. About a month ago, his class did a language arts assessment, just to see how everyone had progressed. Well, he did really well. High 90's mostly, and one 100%! Reading is his strong point... anything that involves writing thoughts on paper is the problem...

I thought ADHD kids had a hard time testing?? I guess not always, because I think I may have it too, and I always tested well in my good subjects.

On another note, his teacher, who I love, is moving to second grade and she put him in her class again, so she can make sure all of the testing happens. Love her!

[mothercat]

Alot of adhd kids have great testing abilities..alot of adhd kids have very high IQ's for what that is worth. Alot of adhd kids have dysgraphia...that would be the writing difficulties...look it up and check it out. My son has dysgraphia ...he has probs putting thought to paper..

Also alot of times.. adhd kids who have very high IQ's dont qualify for an IEP at school because of it...they need the 504 instead.

[Linda]

said:

Alot of adhd kids have great testing abilities..alot of adhd kids have very high IQ's for what that is worth. Alot of adhd kids have dysgraphia...that would be the writing difficulties...look it up and check it out. My son has dysgraphia ...he has probs putting thought to paper..

Also alot of times.. adhd kids who have very high IQ's dont qualify for an IEP at school because of it...they need the 504 instead.

I couldn't agree more

[momto3wolves]

Not sure if it qualifies as dysgraphia, but the OT wrote it up as a visual-motor problem. He knows how things should look, but has trouble getting on paper. Also, he scored 100% on reading comprehension, but if you ask him to write a sentence about a story, he'll write something really vague like "Because pigs don't talk." I don't get that one...

[finnmom]

Momto3

Welcome to the amazing world of adhd-kid´s; at some point they achieve just briljantly and at some other point they cant cope at all

My ds got the highest test-result of reading comprehension too, but try to get him write some thing down It´s the lovely rollercoaster both educationally, mentally and at home

[mothercat]

When Jare writes a sentence very often he will leave the entire middle out..then when he reads it back he inserts it vocally as though it were there...dysgraphia
is a visual motor prob. They often touch on the outskirts of their thought when writing..their brain makes up for the rest.

[kstquilter]

i can definitely relate. brittany reads extremely well and tests well as a whole. especially since she's never gotten any special help with the standard tests.
she scored in honors english composition for the community college she attends but decided to take regular so she could have less stress and get a better grade. solid C all year. i'd hate to think what it would have been in honors.
our kids truly have special gifts as well as the problems they each present.
karen

[LaTonya]

I can relate too. My 8 yr old cannot get things from her head to paper either. And her handwriting is way below schools expectations. I think it shouldnt matter myself. I write horrible as well. But she is an exceptional reader. She also can block out math too so we put her in summer school to see if she can get a better grasp on it. She can read at a 4th grade level and she is just going into 3rd grade. But they gave her a c+ because she cannot get it on paper. Makes my blood boil. She has an IEP too. With my son they just gave him the 504 from the IEP that he had in preschool. He is going into kindergarten. I think they are in for a rude awakening.

[tridlette]

Michael explained it "I get these great ideas in my head, but the get stuck trying to get through my vocal chords or past my elbow to my pencil."

[Mom2Adryanna]

Can i ask what the 504 is? Thanks

carrie

[mothercat]

Carrie...A 504 is for children who are not covered by the IEP..My son is adhd and he has a high IQ therefore the school wouldn't give him the IEP.so we had to go for a 504 instead..

www.helpforadd.com/rights.htm

Special services for children with ADHD may also be obtain under Section 504, a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination against individuals with disabilities. Like IDEA, Section 504 requires schools to provide children who have disabilities with a free and appropriate public education. Unlike IDEA, however, which stipulates that a child has disabilities that require special education services, Section 504 identifies a qualified person as anyone with a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities, such as learning. This means that children who do not require special education are still guaranteed access to related services under Section 504 if the child is deemed to have an impairment that "substantially limits one or more major life activities" such as learning, and the school must try to adapt instructional methods to the needs of children with ADHD.

As learning is considered a major life activity, children diagnosed with AD/HD are entitled to the protections of Section 504 if the disability is substantially limiting their ability to learn. It is up to the local school district to make the determination of whether this condition is met and children who are not eligible for special education may still be guaranteed access to related services if they meet the Section 504 eligibility criteria.

If the child is eligible under Section 504, the school district must develop a Section 504 plan. Thisplan would include accommodations/adaptations that are designed to meet the child's educational needs and may include things such as the following:

- reducing the length of homework assignments;
- allowing the child extra time on tests;
- simplifying instructions about assignments;
- providing specific assistance with planning and organizational skills;
- or using behavioral management techniques in the classroom;
- use of tape recorders
- computer-aided instructions

In general, Section 504 provides a faster and more flexible procedure for obtaining some accommodations and services for children with disabilities and some children may receive protection who are not eligible for services or protection under IDEA. Thus, Section 504 can provide an efficient way to obtain limited assistance without the stigma and bureaucratic procedures attached to IDEA.

The advantage of obtaining services under IDEA, however, is that it offers a wider range of service options, the procedures for parent participation and procedural safeguards are far more extensive, and the degree of regulation is far more specific than that found in Section 504.

For additional information on IDEA Section 504 visit the CHADD web site.

sorry that was long...........

[mothercat]

My son is allowed to use a quick pad in class as he has dysgraphia and it took the 504 to get them to do it..sometimes schools try to tell you that you dont need a 504 but it is really in the best interest of the adhd child to have it.

[momto3wolves]

What's a quick pad? My son has a form of dysgraphia.

[kstquilter]

i realize this information may not translate to younger kids but at the community college i work at you can get carbon paper and have someone else in class be a note taker for you. you can also tape record a lecture so that you have it to refer back to while doing homework or studying.
the kids have a blue card they get from special services and present it to the teacher. it allows them to get the necessary help they need such as longer time to take tests, using a computer during class, larger computer screens for those that have sight problems.
not sure what younger kids have access to.
karen

[amcfanny]

That's nice to know about college! Mine is only headed for third grade but I'm already worrying about that college thing - lol.