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Post by milesofsmiles on Jul 29, 2005 9:08:57 GMT -5
To any of your knowledge, has anyone ever made a list of the symptoms of each of the disorders. So often I am reading a list and I say, 'hey that is my son', then read another list and say 'that is my son'. I know the way to treat the different disorders calls for different approaches. The reason I am asking is that my son looked like text book ADHD, and our doctor treated him with different medicaitons. While the medications said that they would treat the rage and impulsivity he exhibited, they never did. So something else was going on. This went on for years and trying just about every ADHD med out there. Finally a psychiatrist said it was anxiety, and with a different type of medicatoin, just like that we had a totally different child. I am just curious how common the traits of the disorders are, because anxiety and ADHD run pretty close together. I plan on starting a research project on this, maybe it will find its way into the ADHD section. Miles  |
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Post by Kaiti on Jul 29, 2005 10:49:35 GMT -5
???miles, Good question, I think upon all of the research I have done even with college back ground. The adhd spectrum and co-morbids are like a rainbow. Obviously nothing is black and white. So looking at it from that stand point, thinking of all the colors of the rainbow that can be made, each color is a different diagnoses. You may have the over lapping symptoms, what the difference is between blue-violet, violet and red violet, but each of those contain the violet  In the children that I have worked with, I have noticed that any with (or without for that matter) diagnosis thinks with their heart. When something inturrupts that thought process, that is where the different external differences are shown. Does that make sense? Put a poll in the adhd section or this one and see.....can you tell I am a visual thinker....hense part of my make up. There is a totally different branch as well, learning styles Man, got something to think about now |
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Post by Linda on Jul 29, 2005 10:56:38 GMT -5
I think the overlapping symtoms can range from mild to severe just like ADHD. Miles...when you do your research post it. |
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Post by Amsmom on Jul 29, 2005 20:43:56 GMT -5
i know that you can get a list of symptoms/criteria from the DSM IV (diagnostic and statistical manual) used by psychiatrists for mental disorders. our psychiatrist has said that a lot of the symptoms blur from dx to dx, so i think kaiti's rainbow metaphor is a good one! (red-violet, etc) check out this link miles: allpsych.com/disorders/index.html |
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Post by kajunmomma03 on Jul 30, 2005 17:04:35 GMT -5
I am so lost and confused. My son is the same case as above but I can't find a dr. that is willing to try and find a correct diagnosis aroung here, I need help...
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Post by Linda on Jul 30, 2005 19:07:27 GMT -5
:)K/M and welcome to our family where you will find much support How old is your son? tell us some more.Keep searching until you find a Doctor and don't give up. You are your childs best advocate and he needs you. |
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Post by milesofsmiles on Jul 31, 2005 8:00:01 GMT -5
Ditto to what Linda says, We are a pretty active board and someone is usually around to chime in pretty quick compared to other boards. Welcome, Miles |
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Post by Amsmom on Jul 31, 2005 9:44:47 GMT -5
 kajunmomma and welcome to our forum family!! we all understand how hard it is to get a good dr. what kind of dr have you tried so far? have you been to any psychiatrists or neurologists? a good child psychiatrist can mean all the difference in the world in getting a proper dx. pediatricians are great, but don't specialize in mental disorders and many don't have a lot of experience. if you can't find a good psych, call your local children's hospital and ask for the psych dept for a reference. they may also do evaluations at the hospital. good luck and please keep us posted.
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Post by kajunmomma03 on Jul 31, 2005 9:52:30 GMT -5
We have been through 3 neurologists and a couple of pschs but they all say the same nothing, they just say let his peds dr do what he is doing and it will all work out. Around here all the neuro's was worried about was his severe migraines and nothing else. But thanks we have a children's hospital about 300 miles away and I will try them, maybe they can determine something. All his psych dr were from a local free mental health center that logan refused to talk and would sit there like a zombie, know that feeling?
And thanks for the welcoming it is so good to read and talk to people who understand this situation instead of just thinking he is a horrible child and needs to be beaten some sense into, so thanks a bunch for this site.....
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Post by Linda on Jul 31, 2005 10:05:25 GMT -5
You are so welcome. My heart goes out to you for all the frustration you are feeling.  I don't think your child is bad at all.I think he can't help a lot of the things he is going through. Keep us posted. |
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Post by Amsmom on Jul 31, 2005 10:20:11 GMT -5
oh k/m i doooo know exactly how you feel. my ds9 is adhd/bipolar, but it took years to get the proper dx and the right meds. when logan was on risperdal, was he also on adderall or another stim? most kids with mood disorders dont do well on stims, it made the negative behaviors worse in my ds. he is currently on depakote for mood stabilization, risperdal for aggression and elavil for depression and focusing. if logan has never been on risperdal alone, it is worth asking the dr if you can try it. and keep us posted |
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Post by kajunmomma03 on Jul 31, 2005 17:28:22 GMT -5
 That is something we have not tried alone always with the Adderall. I am trying a new dsoc this week and hopefully he will know something , another question what is the Depkote, I have been reading wonderful news about it on here and am, wondering what it is and if I should talk to my dr about it. 
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Post by Amsmom on Jul 31, 2005 21:07:47 GMT -5
depakote is an anti-seizure medication that has been around for many years. it is also used as a mood stabilizer for kids with mood disorders, primarily bipolar disorder. it has been wonderful for my ds. it may be beneficial for you to try to do without stims to see how the other meds may work. ask the dr about it. in my experience with my ds, the stims counteract any good the other meds can do. good luck!!!
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Post by Kaiti on Aug 2, 2005 9:46:37 GMT -5
Thanks Amsmom, I actually have a clue as to what I am talking about ;D ;D . K/M, we went through hearing..."he's just a boy" to "he's got food allergies" .....to "he can't have food allergies if he doesn't have nasal allergies........" We traveled to Delaware to AI DuPont to see a Ped. Nuero. She was great and actually his DX was Mild ADHD....aggravated my classroom settings. His class is almost 30 kids......yeah....he can concentrate in that kind of enviornment. Above all, (in my opinion,) make sure that your son is comfortable with whoever you go to. It won't help matters if he just sits like a bump on a log and doesn't exp[ress anything. Good luck and come back often. The family here is great |
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Post by milesofsmiles on Aug 2, 2005 9:51:09 GMT -5
Our new therapist has lots of techniques to get kids to talk, within 10 minutes she was able to get him to respond where another therapist took months and "still has not established a relationship with him". Our current therapist says to shop around. It is all about the relationship and a Dr. who can listen. After exhausting our Dr's here, we ended up traveling 80 miles for our latest Dr. It took years, but I am finally happy. Miles |
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